To MBA or not to MBA?


Will Weinig believes a master’s degree in business administration from Washington State University Vancouver will give him an edge in the international hospitality and tourism industry. An MBA, says the German-born 24-year-old, will improve his marketability, enrich his knowledge of business theory and give him a distinctively American credential in a competitive global job market.

An estimated 3,400 others studying at 15 public and private institutions in Washington state see it more or less the same way: An MBA is a career plus, worth the investment in time and money, not only for the degree but also for the network of classmates, faculty and alumni that comes with it.

The money part, however, can be daunting. Average annual tuition per student ranges from $10,000 at WSU Vancouver to more than $40,000 for certain specialty MBAs at Seattle University and the University of Washington.

For the schools—large and small, public and private— MBA programs are big business. In Washington, these programs generate estimated tuition revenue of more than $70 million a year. And that amount doesn’t include room, board and other student costs. But rising tuition, changing corporate hiring strategies and weakened postgraduate salaries have some wondering about the ongoing value of an MBA. That perception, combined with stiff competition for qualified students, declining full-time MBA enrollment and rising operating costs, presents challenges for the state’s graduate business school administrators where MBA programs are typically self-supporting.

“It is taking more effort to attract students to your institution,” says Marilyn Gist, associate dean of the highly ranked graduate programs at Seattle University’s Albers School of Business and Economics. “Students are reluctant to take on more debt at the graduate level.”

Meanwhile, fewer students are applying to the many available seats in full-time MBA programs. Bloomberg Businessweek reported last year that 62 percent of full-time, two-year programs noted a decline in applications.

To better compete, many schools are redesigning their curricula, expanding specialty programs, offering more parttime, night-school and online classes and shortening the length of course work for certain degrees so students don’t have to take as much time from their busy schedules to complete their degrees.

Gist says Seattle University is customizing its programs to fit the needs of its students. The Albers School offers a “bridge” MBA program for younger students without work experience and is preparing to roll out some hybrid MBA course work that blends classroom and online study. Gonzaga University in Spokane also has a hybrid MBA program that combines online studies with classroom experience. “I don’t see us offering a total online program,” says Jinny Piskel, Gonzaga’s director of the Graduate School of Business. “Our competitive market advantage is in the value-added classroom experience.”

As competition intensifies, it is becoming increasingly important for schools to find a place in national rankings. Gonzaga was pleased to land a spot in U.S. News & World Report’s list that ranked its part-time MBA program 73rd best in the nation. Seattle University’s full-time Leadership Executive MBA was ranked 19th in the nation by U.S. News. The evening school at the University of Washington’s Foster School of Business placed No. 15 and a specialized MBA in accounting placed No. 18.

U.S. News scored the Foster School’s traditional MBA program an impressive 23rd in the nation, while The Economist scored it 34th in the world. A strong job placement record of 96.8 percent was a factor in those rankings, says Assistant Dean Dan Poston. In hopes of breaking into the exclusive U.S. News “Top 20 Business Schools” list, the Foster School recently reduced the number of students accepted into its program. That raises the quality of the average student accepted as well as their average test scores.

During the worst of the recent recession, Washington State University dropped its on-campus MBA program at the main campus in Pullman while maintaining branch campus offerings. The business faculty then decided to ramp up its online-only MBA. That effort was rewarded this spring with a No. 1 national ranking from U.S. News & World Report.

With 160 students, the online program is five years ahead of enrollment projections, says Cheryl Oliver, WSU director of graduate programs. Most students (60 percent) are from the Northwest, with others in the military overseas, some in the Middle East, Japan and South Africa. “It may not be realistic given the market, but we would like to see this program grow into the thousands,” Oliver says. “When you’ve got the No. 1 online program, it matters.”

Meanwhile, WSU is relaunching its oncampus MBA program in Pullman this fall, she says.

As tuitions soar, student debts rise and jobs remain scarce, there has been a reassessment of the value of the MBA. “Smaller paychecks await newly minted MBAs, especially from less prestigious schools,” The Wall Street Journal reported recently. “There are officially too many MBAs,” added The Atlantic. In 2011, 126,214 students earned MBA degrees in the United States, up 74 percent from 2000-2001. More than 600,000 people now hold an MBA from American institutions.

Still, many say the need remains. “We see endless MBA bashing in the national media because these stories will be read,” says John Byrne, founder and regular contributor to Poets&, a website geared toward MBA students, potential students and graduate business schools. “That’s because the MBA remains a highly popular degree … and a degree where people immediately want to measure the outcomes. But simply measuring the money you earn at graduation or three months after graduation is not the full story.”

As earning an MBA has become more expensive and salaries have flattened, the return on investment has fallen. Ten years ago, an MBA would typically triple a person’s income. Now, it more likely doubles one’s income, but it’s still a pretty good return. While the number of applicants at two-year programs has declined, the quality of enrollees at the top schools remains high.

“Even if you only attend a school among the top 50, you have a degree that still separates you out of the pile,” says Byrne. “An MBA tells people you are ambitious for your career and for yourself, even if the degree is from a program no one has heard of.”

Increasingly, students are using the MBA not to turbocharge their existing careers, but to move into a completely new field. “Someone may be coming out of the military who wants to move into the private sector or a schoolteacher may want to work in marketing,” explains the UW’s Poston. To address those needs, he says, the UW, which has a total enrollment of about 750, is now offering an array of degrees with special areas of emphasis such as global executive, technology management, culture and values, and international development. Seattle U and Gonzaga both offer programs in health care management.

“It’s not an easy market to compete in,” says Jerry Goodstein, MBA program faculty director at WSU Vancouver. “We have to be very thoughtful about how we value and differentiate our program.” One way schools are responding to student needs is by providing more flexibility. “MBA students want convenience and less time away from their families,” says Tate White, assistant director of graduate studies in business at Whitworth University in Spokane. “When you have a job and a family, adding MBA study on top of that is challenging.” At Whitworth, there are 40 students in the MBA program and they attend only evening classes one or two times a week.

But do MBAs really help students find a job? Charles Mah, a top recruiter at Redmond-based Concur Technologies, thinks so. Concur, an integrated travel and expense management software business, uses an internship agreement with the University of Washington to gain access to MBA students. “Our goal is to broadly hire innovative talent, not just MBAs,” says Mah, “then make sure we provide the right mentoring with competitive pay.”

Mah himself is considering pursuing an MBA. “I’m looking at an international focus or an executive MBA,” he says. “With an MBA, you get business planning skills, analytics and innovation development from conception to reality.”

Karen Montague, who earned an MBA from the UW 27 years ago, says when she received her degree there was no question of its value. “I’m sure my first job off er came because I had just gotten an MBA,” says Montague, who has worked for Weyerhaeuser and Eddie Bauer. Today, she says the value of the MBA may not be as self-evident but that “for most, it’s a good notch in your belt.”

The current economic recovery could do more than anything else to help restore the luster of the MBA. Kurt Kirstein, dean of the School of Management at City University, which boasts one of the largest MBA enrollments in the Puget Sound region, is optimistic that demand for MBA degrees across all platforms will continue to increase as the economy improves. “We saw enrollment at the start of the recession take a big jump, then drop off ,” Kirstein says. “We had 100 students finishing the program and only 80 new ones starting. Now enrollment is rebounding.”

Meanwhile, German-born Will Weinig, the MBA student at WSU Vancouver, is glad to be in the United States getting a graduate degree. His next step is to land a business internship, he says. “I’m open to where that might be … the U.S. or Europe,” and he’s sure the MBA will improve his chances.



Washington’s accredited Master’s in Business Administration programs, listed in order of total enrollment. (Tuition prices vary with student in-state residency or military status and full- or part-time coursework.)



University of Washington

Foster School of Business, Seattle; Milgard School of Business, Tacoma; UW Bothell School of Business

Puget Sound enrollment: 750

Annual Tuition: $12,500 to $40,170

MBA areas of emphasis: technology management, international development policy, executive, leadership, global executive



City University of Seattle

Puget Sound enrollment: 786

Annual tuition: $11,016 to $22,788 (online and in-class options at Bellevue, Everett, Renton, Seattle, Tacoma)

MBA areas of emphasis: technology management, accounting, finance, sustainable business, project management, change leadership, global management, human resource management, global marketing



Seattle University

Albers School of Business & Economics

Enrollment: 650

Annual tuition: $37,344 to $40,800

MBA areas of emphasis: leadership executive, entrepreneurship, health leadership, executive, accounting, business valuation, sustainability



WGU Washington

College of Business

Washington ENrollment: 612

Annual Tuition: $6,500

MBA Areas of Emphasis: management and strategy,

health care management, IT management



Washington State University

College of Business

Enrollment: 350 (including online, Tri-Cities, Spokane and Vancouver)

Annual tuition: $11,736 to $30,000

MBA areas of emphasis: accounting, finance, hospitality and tourism, information systems, management, marketing, organizations, health care management, international business



Gonzaga University

Graduate School of Business

Spokane enrollment: 260

Annual tuition: $28,710

MBA areas of emphasis: American Indian entrepreneurship, health care management, finance, marketing, entrepreneurship



Bainbridge Graduate Institute

Puget Sound enrollment: 125

Annual tuition: $27,720 to $31,717

MBA areas of emphasis: sustainable systems, sustainable business management



Western Washington University

College of Business and Economics

Bellingham-Everett enrollment: 115

Annual tuition: $15,718 to $25,692

MBA areas of emphasis: accounting, general business administration, international business, marketing, operations management, finance, management, management information systems



Seattle Pacific University

 School of Business and Economics

Enrollment: 104

Annual tuition: $17,055 to $27,288 (evenings and weekends only)

MBA areas of emphasis: finance, human resource management, information systems management, international business, management, social and sustainable business, technology management



Eastern Washington University

College of Business and Public Administration

Cheney enrollment: 100

Annual tuition: $11,360 to $13,925

MBA areas of emphasis: finance, information technology



St. Martin’s University

School of Business

Enrollment: 85

Annual tuition: $14,760 to $32,740 (evenings and weekends only)

MBA areas of emphasis: accounting, economics, finance, management, marketing



Pacific Lutheran University

School of Business

Tacoma enrollment: 65

Annual tuition: $19,458 to $29,187 (evenings only)

MBA areas of emphasis: management, technology-innovation, health care, entrepreneurship and closely held business



Whitworth University

School of Global Commerce & Management

Spokane enrollment: 32

Annual tuition: $13,015 to $16,097 (evenings only, accelerated format)

MBA areas of emphasis: general business administration, international management




Argosy University

College of Business

 Enrollment: 22

Annual tuition: $21,630

MBA areas of emphasis: accounting, extended fundamentals of management, fundamentals of management, global business sustainability, human resource management, information systems, international business, management, marketing, nonprofit management, organizational management, service sector management



University of Phoenix

School of Business

Puget Sound enrollment: Unavailable

Annual tuition: $11,865 to $39,960

MBA areas of emphasis: marketing, energy management, global management, health care management, project management, technology management, accounting, human resource management




Raymond Conner

CEO, Boeing Commercial Airplanes

MBA, University of Puget Sound


Keith Krach

CEO, DocuSign

MBA, Harvard University


Carol Nelson

Director, Washington State Department of Revenue

MBA, Seattle U, Albers School of Business & Economics


Jeffrey Newgard

CEO, Yakima National Bank

MBA, Washington State University


Mark Pigott

CEO, Paccar

M.S. in Business, Stanford University


Bradley Tilden

CEO, Alaska Airlines

MBA, UW Foster School of Business


Steve Ballmer

CEO, Microsoft

B.A., Mathematics/Economics, Harvard University


Jeff Bezos


B.S., Computer Science & Engineering, Princeton U.


Melanie Dressel

President & CEO, Columbia Bank

B.A., Political Science, University of Washington


Jason Herman

CEO, Allyis

Ph.D., English, Univeristy of Arizona


John Oppenheimer

President & CEO, Columbia Hospitality

B.A., Urban Affairs/Political Science, U. of Puget Sound


Howard Schultz

Chairman and CEO, Starbucks

B.A., Communications, Northern Michigan University


B.A., PolitiCAl sCienCe,
universitY of WAshington


Paying the Price for $15 an Hour

Paying the Price for $15 an Hour

With the economy soaring, it’s hard to gauge the effectiveness of Seattle’s minimum-wage hike. Some small-business owners remain dubious.
When the Seattle City Council passed the $15 minimum- wage ordinance in June 2014, David Lee, founder and CEO of the Field Roast Grain Meat Company, was not happy.
“The minimum wage hurts businesses like ours that compete on a national level,” says Lee, who believes it makes employers feel “cheap” and weakens “the goodwill that bound employers to employees.”
Even so, reflecting the mixed feelings of many Seattle businesses that want to do the right thing even as they struggle to survive, Lee decided to raise the minimum pay of his workers more than 20 percent — to $15 an hour — this fall, years before he was required to do so under the law.
“I wanted to get it behind me,” he explains.
Under a complex, multitiered system, Seattle companies with more than 500 employees must begin paying a $15-per-hour minimum wage starting in January. Companies with fewer than 501 employees  have until 2019, unless, like Lee, they provide health care or other benefits, in which case the $15 minimum wage rule applies to them beginning in 2021. Lee says his decision will cost Field Roast $300,000, about a quarter of its total earnings in 2015.
Ivar’s Seafood increased prices by 21 percent in 2015 to cover an increase in employees’ minimum wages to $15. The company didn’t have to start paying $15 an hour until next year, but Ivar’s President Bob Donegan believed it was the right thing to do. The decision helped resolve long-standing tension between lower-paid workers in the kitchen and wait staff who received much higher wages thanks to tips. Donegan says most patrons continue to tip even when they are told gratuities are now included in their bills.

A CASE OF COMPRESSION: Lynn Stacy unwraps grain meat for sausage products at Field Roast,
which has a flatter pay structure because of its higher minimum wage.

Some companies, however, remain concerned that the higher minimum wage could still hurt them. BrightStar Care, which offers home care and medical staffing in most states, is operating at a disadvantage because of the minimum wage, says CEO Shelly Sun. “Our Seattle franchise has only about 50 employees,” Sun notes, “but it’s being treated like a big business.”
Because Seattle treats the franchised operation of a national chain as if it were a large business, BrightStar will have to pay $15 an hour as of January, whereas some of its competitors with similar employee numbers in Seattle may not have to pay that much until 2019. Sun says a consequence may be reducing the size of the Seattle franchisee’s staff, which could have implications for clients.
Meanwhile, the national restaurant chain Buffalo Wild Wings says it is hesitant to expand in Seattle because the high minimum wage makes it economically inefficient to hire and train inexperienced workers. Still, what was once considered a movement isolated to “liberal” western cities like Seattle and San Francisco has gained sufficient momentum nationwide to be included in the national platform of the Democratic Party this election season. 
Thanks to Seattle’s strong labor market — the unemployment rate in the Seattle metropolitan area was 4.4 percent in July (compared to 5.8 percent statewide) — the higher wages have had little negative effect on the economy.
A report released in July by the University of Washington’s Evans School of Public Policy and Governance concluded that the new minimum wage law hasn’t had a lot of upside, either. Since a strong labor market would have increased wages in any case, the study concluded, only a quarter of the recent gains could actually be attributed to the minimum-wage law — a little more than a few dollars a week. 

Revisiting the minimum-wage story | Seattle Business magazine examined the minimum-wage issue in its May 2014 issue, just as the Seattle City Council was considering an ordinance raising the minimum hourly rate to $15 in a gradual process over several years, depending on a company’s size. This is the magazine’s first follow-up since passage of the minimum-wage law.